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03:09 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link] But I did define it without reference to the players. I could include: "D&C are based on their home thread (insert link)." Doesn't that distinguish it further?
adam_147 said:
Manchester United is a Premiership football team based in Old Trafford/Salford in Manchester, who play their home games at Old Trafford Stadium (insert the rest of the address), are managed by Sir Alex Ferguson (insert DOB and personal details). I could go into more detail but I think that is sufficient to prove the point that Manchester United can be defined uniquely without reference to the players, whereas a snooker clan can't be.
03:10 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
D&C is also based on funkysnooker which can be found on the internet
03:11 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
If the team composed of player 1, player 2,..., player 15 wins two seasons running, irrespective of whatever random word has been assigned to that team, then that team has won 2 league titles.
If this team then wins again however player 8 has left and has been replaced by player 16, then there are 2 league victories for players (1-15) and one league victory for players (1-7,9-16) regardless of if the name changes.
I am basically saying a team has won 2 league titles if and only if every member on the team is the same.
If this team then wins again however player 8 has left and has been replaced by player 16, then there are 2 league victories for players (1-15) and one league victory for players (1-7,9-16) regardless of if the name changes.
I am basically saying a team has won 2 league titles if and only if every member on the team is the same.
03:13 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
The same can be said for any type of team anywhere! Look at American sports, where clubs are a franchise. The current Los Angeles Dodgers used to be the Brooklyn Dodgers until they were moved by their new owner decades ago. They are still the same franchise and thus have the achievements of the franchise.
03:15 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Without having gone to check all the facts:
Dollars & Cents is an online snooker team founded a few seasons ago. It has won the league 4 times. D&C are organized on their thread (http://www.funkysnooker.com/thread/8778/dollars-cents-8th-thread) and currently captained by whocares8x8.
All unique identifiers without reference to players (whocares8x8 as captain = Ferguson as manager in this case). Is this enough for the unique definition without reference to players you were looking for?
Dollars & Cents is an online snooker team founded a few seasons ago. It has won the league 4 times. D&C are organized on their thread (http://www.funkysnooker.com/thread/8778/dollars-cents-8th-thread) and currently captained by whocares8x8.
All unique identifiers without reference to players (whocares8x8 as captain = Ferguson as manager in this case). Is this enough for the unique definition without reference to players you were looking for?
03:15 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Only if said team is defined solely by the players.
03:17 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link] No, it's defined by the structural organization that remains in place regardless of which players currently play for it. Like D&C now- it remains the same clan, regardless of who has joined or left.
adam_147 said:
Only if said team is defined solely by the players.
03:18 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
If I have a brush, and replace the head, then replace the handle, is it the same brush? You are arguing that it is.
03:22 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link] You've lost me. You'll have to tell me what all those parts represent.
adam_147 said:
If I have a brush, and replace the head, then replace the handle, is it the same brush? You are arguing that it is.
03:24 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
head is the player im guessing so whats the handle?
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03:26 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Row row row your boat, gently down the stream.....
03:27 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
They weren't representing anything. I am just asking you would you say that the brush with the head and handle replaced was the same brush as the first one.
03:30 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
I have no idea? But I don't see a relation to our discussion.
If you can't see ninjas, how do people know what they look like?
Can you answer that???
If you can't see ninjas, how do people know what they look like?
Can you answer that???
03:31 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
lets talk about something whats worth talking about, for example how bad were going to thrash the poolers
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03:33 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
LMAO
whocares8x8 said:
I have no idea? But I don't see a relation to our discussion.
If you can't see ninjas, how do people know what they look like?
Can you answer that???
If you can't see ninjas, how do people know what they look like?
Can you answer that???
LMAO
03:34 Tue 7 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Yes, you can see ninjas.
The relation to the discussion was I was trying to establish at what point you would deem two clans to be different if they had the same name. I'm not having a go or anything like that, i'm simply trying to see how you reason.
The relation to the discussion was I was trying to establish at what point you would deem two clans to be different if they had the same name. I'm not having a go or anything like that, i'm simply trying to see how you reason.
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