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20:07 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
I meant limited range as in the cursor can only be placed within a limited radius of the cue ball. Original post was on previous page.
20:11 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
Completely disagree with that statement, a tight pot is much more difficult in real life because you have to be more accurate. If the white is close to the object ball you would still make the pot because the degree of inaccuracy won't be amplified by the shot distance.
Not true because if you are going for the tightest pot possible, there is a less than 0.5 degree margin of error so it could be missed.
personally I prefer my idea for the limited cursor range as the major flaw in the 0.5 degree inaccuracy is that, say you were trying to cut a ball as thinly as possible, the 0.5 degree inaccuracy system would make that equally difficult regardless of range, which is not a true reflection!
Completely disagree with that statement, a tight pot is much more difficult in real life because you have to be more accurate. If the white is close to the object ball you would still make the pot because the degree of inaccuracy won't be amplified by the shot distance.
Not true because if you are going for the tightest pot possible, there is a less than 0.5 degree margin of error so it could be missed.
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20:14 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
I'll do a diagram to explain what im on about in an hour or so . Basically forget about balls and think about direction.
if the cue direction is at 250 degrees, the shot could be any where between 250.5 to 249.5, also note .5 will most likely be too much.
Edited at 17:18 Mon 26/03/12 (BST)
if the cue direction is at 250 degrees, the shot could be any where between 250.5 to 249.5, also note .5 will most likely be too much.
Edited at 17:18 Mon 26/03/12 (BST)
20:19 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
If you are going for the very edge of the ball then even 0.01 degree will make you miss the ball completely.
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20:29 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
TRUE, but you could never be that accurate consistently. Next time your on a table in real life, try and hit the edge 10 times and see how far the object ball moves each time. It will most likely be anything from a inch to a foot. That's the degree of inaccuracy in effect.
20:45 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
Going back to the 'tap tap'
I think the reason it's getting to you is that you must accept that you're a good player, rank 7 I think on orig.
ppl are going to be scared of you, rightly so, one mistake and the frame will probably be over.
You can't really blame a lower ranked player for trying to make it a 'messy' frame, in the hope they can nick it.
I'm sure if you played a world class pro for real you'd try and keep it tight.
So I think you'll just have to live with it.
Even when playing a tapper you can usually find an edge to play off and put some distance between white and reds.
As for tweeking the other options mentioned I think the most obvious ones would be playing from against the cushion and being able to play screw.
Equally when bridging over another ball.
I like the idea of a vanishing cursor as atm there is no difference lining up a shot from any distance.
I think the reason it's getting to you is that you must accept that you're a good player, rank 7 I think on orig.
ppl are going to be scared of you, rightly so, one mistake and the frame will probably be over.
You can't really blame a lower ranked player for trying to make it a 'messy' frame, in the hope they can nick it.
I'm sure if you played a world class pro for real you'd try and keep it tight.
So I think you'll just have to live with it.
Even when playing a tapper you can usually find an edge to play off and put some distance between white and reds.
As for tweeking the other options mentioned I think the most obvious ones would be playing from against the cushion and being able to play screw.
Equally when bridging over another ball.
I like the idea of a vanishing cursor as atm there is no difference lining up a shot from any distance.
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20:48 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
^^Totally agree with that, although some people are complaining that it's the top players that are doing it against them not lower ranked, which i don't quite believe to be true, yeah you might get the odd one that does it but I'm sure most top players smash the pack or play safe.
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20:49 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
So what your saying is that I should reset?
Lots play into the back of the pack. Basically to leave the black in play. Believe me or not its TRUE
Edited at 17:58 Mon 26/03/12 (BST)
Lots play into the back of the pack. Basically to leave the black in play. Believe me or not its TRUE
Edited at 17:58 Mon 26/03/12 (BST)
20:56 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
its true in arcade but not much in original, reg is a mix between the 2
^^Totally agree with that, although some people are complaining that it's the top players that are doing it against them not lower ranked, which i don't quite believe to be true, yeah you might get the odd one that does it but I'm sure most top players smash the pack or play safe.
its true in arcade but not much in original, reg is a mix between the 2
20:59 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
NO DON'T RESET
Stay with the real ppl my friend
Stay with the real ppl my friend
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21:29 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
Yeah i know in arcade dgen loads of people do it, but smashing the pack in that game mode works a treat, 9 times out of 10 you will pot and clear...in reg if someone rolls into the pack then i will smash same with original if i played it, win or lose doesn't really matter does it?
Obviously everyone plays to try and win, but why care so much if you lose?
Obviously everyone plays to try and win, but why care so much if you lose?
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21:38 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
Who said they care if they lose? Your points are way off topic
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo this is no longer about that
Going back to the 'tap tap'
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo this is no longer about that
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21:42 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
No one said they care, It's just clearly obvious...or the ones that are complaining would smash the pack and get on with the game, If you didn't mind losing you would just smash the pack without even thinking you're opponent is going to clear up after, but it seems thats the reason people keep worrying about!
I wouldn't really say they are off topic, this is clearly the only reason why people are scared of smashing the pack, simple as that I'm afraid!
Edited at 18:46 Mon 26/03/12 (BST)
I wouldn't really say they are off topic, this is clearly the only reason why people are scared of smashing the pack, simple as that I'm afraid!
Edited at 18:46 Mon 26/03/12 (BST)
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21:52 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
Your wrong, I started this thread, not because I hate loosing, but because I find it boring watching your opponent clear the balls because id rather smash them then tip tap around for 10 minutes.
However it is still off topic. This thread is now about a possible implementation of adam's suggestion. Any deviation from that topic will just decrease the already unlikely event of getting a new game mode which allows for more realistic safety exchanges.
However it is still off topic. This thread is now about a possible implementation of adam's suggestion. Any deviation from that topic will just decrease the already unlikely event of getting a new game mode which allows for more realistic safety exchanges.
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21:57 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
Thats the name of the game unfortunately, you have to just deal with anything thats not against the rules.
On Adam's idea, I know i was wrong earlier, but still this would make the game a lot more harder, and new members would get annoyed and lose intrest very quickly, so in my opinion it's absolutely pointless, just to try and prevent tapping, which I'm pretty sure Nick won't be prepared to waste any of his time on.
On Adam's idea, I know i was wrong earlier, but still this would make the game a lot more harder, and new members would get annoyed and lose intrest very quickly, so in my opinion it's absolutely pointless, just to try and prevent tapping, which I'm pretty sure Nick won't be prepared to waste any of his time on.
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21:58 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
we want this!!! i would also like to see the screw back option removed or restricted for cushion shots
For the idea I posted about limiting the range of the cursor to make long pots more difficult, it couldn't be implemented into any existing game type as it would invalidate all existing stats. Achievements like maxes would be a lot harder to get if position had to be more precise.
What I would love to see is a new game type with:
1. limited range of cursor (my previous suggestion)
2. very tight pockets cut more like professional ones
3. At least double cloth speed
It would be unfair to make the existing types harder as relatively very few players have mastered them and new players would find it very hard to get going. What would be good is a much harder type for those who have done everything on the ones now. As tapping would be pretty much useless unless as a last resort compared to proper safety in this new mode i suggested, it would be a way for the current games to stay as they are and offer a tap-free zone for those who want one .
What I would love to see is a new game type with:
1. limited range of cursor (my previous suggestion)
2. very tight pockets cut more like professional ones
3. At least double cloth speed
It would be unfair to make the existing types harder as relatively very few players have mastered them and new players would find it very hard to get going. What would be good is a much harder type for those who have done everything on the ones now. As tapping would be pretty much useless unless as a last resort compared to proper safety in this new mode i suggested, it would be a way for the current games to stay as they are and offer a tap-free zone for those who want one .
we want this!!! i would also like to see the screw back option removed or restricted for cushion shots
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22:02 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
Okay, I apologise again, long tiring day at work and I've only just read the whole of adam's post haha, not a bad idea but the game would be very unpopular in my opinion.
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22:03 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
If its a no to the new game mode, then well DUH!
Most new members tend to play arcade anyway, this mode would be on orig table.
This is now about not being able to play safety, not about getting rid of tapping.
Can someone please rename the thread for crying out loud
Thats the name of the game unfortunately, you have to just deal with anything thats not against the rules.
If its a no to the new game mode, then well DUH!
On Adam's idea, I know i was wrong earlier, but still this would make the game a lot more harder, and new members would get annoyed and lose intrest very quickly, so in my opinion it's absolutely pointless,
Most new members tend to play arcade anyway, this mode would be on orig table.
just to try and prevent tapping, which I'm pretty sure Nick won't be prepared to waste any of his time on.
This is now about not being able to play safety, not about getting rid of tapping.
Can someone please rename the thread for crying out loud
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22:05 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
Liks Nick is going to work on a new game mode anyway just because a few people can't deal with tapping, as if!!! lol!
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22:06 Mon 26 Mar 12 (BST) [Link]
You might be right, I was hoping that the safety element would be very attractive to the snooker fans amongst us.
Okay, I apologise again, long tiring day at work and I've only just read the whole of adam's post haha, not a bad idea but the game would be very unpopular in my opinion.
You might be right, I was hoping that the safety element would be very attractive to the snooker fans amongst us.
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