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04:04 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I get it now but only 5 people each fixture getting a game, hmm.
Allstarz would manage if they had another 2 key players *hint*
whocares8x8
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04:05 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
we are going from 16 players 7 subs to 12 players 5 subs. Roughly the same ratio. If you want the math:

Currently, we have 44% of players as subs.
Next season, we would have 41% of players as subs. Essentially the same.
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04:05 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I get it now but only 5 people each fixture getting a game, hmm.
Allstarz would manage if they had another 2 key players *hint*
7 players in each fixture are getting a game. Plus killer
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04:06 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Like captain put 2 names forward on teamsheet?
So if not in arc,reg etc killer?

Yeah i get it now sounds good
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04:08 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
we are going from 16 players 7 subs to 12 players 5 subs. Roughly the same ratio. If you want the math:

Currently, we have 44% of players as subs.
Next season, we would have 41% of players as subs. Essentially the same.


3% difference there Seb since when as that been the same

So with the players championship coming into the league are you getting rid of the players championship?
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04:10 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Like captain put 2 names forward on teamsheet?
So if not in arc,reg etc killer?

Yeah i get it now sounds good
???
yeah have 5 players that only play a single game type. You also have two players that will be playing 2arc, 3reg, 2orig. That's 7 players playing a game.
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04:12 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I get it now 100%
But will it work combining league and PC?
whocares8x8
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04:12 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
we are going from 16 players 7 subs to 12 players 5 subs. Roughly the same ratio. If you want the math:

Currently, we have 44% of players as subs.
Next season, we would have 41% of players as subs. Essentially the same.

3% difference there Seb since when as that been the same

So with the players championship coming into the league are you getting rid of the players championship?
Because 3% is negligible. If we only had 6 games that would be a 6% difference, if we had 8 games it would be a 25% difference. So 7 games is the closest solution.

And no, the Player's Championship is a separate competition, so is not affected by the league format changes.
whocares8x8
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04:13 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I get it now 100%
But will it work combining league and PC?
We're not combining the two. The Player's Championship is still its own separate individual competition.
We needed to reduce the number of games to reflect the smaller clan sizes. This seems like the most sensible way to do it without severely reducing the most popular game types.
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04:14 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Oh right, these all final decision or still open to changes?
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04:16 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
we are going from 16 players 7 subs to 12 players 5 subs. Roughly the same ratio. If you want the math:

Currently, we have 44% of players as subs.
Next season, we would have 41% of players as subs. Essentially the same.

3% difference there Seb since when as that been the same

So with the players championship coming into the league are you getting rid of the players championship?
Because 3% is negligible. If we only had 6 games that would be a 6% difference, if we had 8 games it would be a 25% difference. So 7 games is the closest solution.

And no, the Player's Championship is a separate competition, so is not affected by the league format changes.


If it is separate why you bringing it into the league?

Either its in the league and not separate or its just a separate competition.

I have got a funny feeling i'm going to get messages/PMs asking me how many frames and what game modes my players have to play. It already happens in the cup so why not just keep it simple?
whocares8x8
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04:30 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Well, the Individual's Tourney and the Cup already use the same format but nobody complained about that?

If players can't understand a really simple format, then that would be shocking. Simply put the format at the top of the fixtures like this:

Team A 0 vs 0 Team B

Play 6 frames of your game type; 3 of power.
Mixed: Play 2 frames each of arc, reg, and orig.


Arcade:
arcade_107 vs _wales_lad_
Regular:
moore6c vs i_am_blessed
Original:
d_legend vs dvz
Carom:
ripped_rank vs mich
Power:
battlecat vs mattywellie
Mixed:
player1 vs player2
player3 vs player4
Killer:
0 vs 0
0 vs 0

If they can't understand that, then no matter what system we use, they'll ask questions.
whocares8x8
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04:32 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Oh right, these all final decision or still open to changes?
We still have time to change this, but we've had several pages of discussion starting a few weeks ago, so this seems like a decent end product.
But if enough people have problems with it, we can certainly still change it.
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04:37 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
So you have cut the teams by a 1/4 but you have only took away one game from the format, how is that going by numbers?

Above post will be for new season currently 9 games altogether

Last season was 2 arc, reg, orig n carom, 1 power and killer which equals 10 games altogether

Was there any point in lowering the number of players in a team as there is only one less game?
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04:39 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Anybody can play the killer games, so clan sizes dont affect that. It's all about the individual games.

We currently have 9 games, not 8 as you said. We are cutting that down to 7. As I showed to you earlier with the math, that's as close as we can get it to the current format.
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04:41 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah looks a decent format tbh.
Is the mixed cup game etc?
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04:43 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
It is still 2 games of killer to play, so that is 4 killer games a set and as you have said before teams have struggled with 2 killer games per set.

I also said 9(new season) 10(season just ending).

If you are cutting clans down by 1/4 surely you have got to takeaway more than just one game type per set
whocares8x8
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04:47 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
They are 2v2 games though and a lot easier to play. They can be played back-to-back if needed, essentially making them 1 game. This isn't just an experiment- it has been done before and worked very well.

Again, what's important are the individual games, because those are where you need subs. We are keeping it as closely to the current format as possible. Not sure how else to explain it.

What is your alternative? Cutting it down to 6 games for 12 players?
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04:47 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Is the mixed cup game etc?
I don't know what this question means lol
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04:48 Sun 21 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Is the mixed cup game etc?
I don't know what this question means lol


Mixed:
player1 vs player2
player3 vs player4
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