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erigert
erigert
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02:17 Sun 19 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
just for the record, 3 people on clan waiting list so it cant be said tbat there arent enough players. What i see missing, is enough captains to ask them to join their clans
whocares8x8
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05:31 Sun 19 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Thats true as well, but regardless of how many players are on the waiting list, numbers are small compared to pool
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16:37 Mon 20 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
If people are only motivated to act by a looming deadline, why not trial shorter fixture sets (and to make that work, fewer games per set). In principle it would make sense to reduce the league to keep it in line with the reduction of clans. Or to reduce to size of clans, in order to boost the number of clans, providing there is enough leadership in reserve.
dgeneratio
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19:58 Mon 20 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah as my dad would say "things are looking bleak" right now for the League, hope one or two more at the very least.

Short format's i have always been in favour and it was discussed about during the last season i think. No matter what the deadline is people will wait until the last third or quarter to complete. In a 7 day deadline they may wait until day 4-7 to play, double for two weeks so 8-14 and triple for three weeks so 12-21.

Pool is trialing a 3 week fixtures with overlap each week but with how few clans we have i think longer fixture sets may be a bad thing here.
vixen_xox
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20:08 Mon 20 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
We tried the one week fixture for the pre season friendlies last season, it was pretty much the same as the 2 week deadline just in a shorter period. That's not to say it's how it would have continued though as 1 one week trial isn't really a clear picture of how it would have worked out over the course of an entire season.
erigert
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00:19 Tue 21 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Just give half of the bonus points if half of the games are played in the first week and half of bonus points for having no defaults after two weeks.
whocares8x8
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23:04 Wed 22 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
^Could be an option, although all of that doesnt change the fact that we have 4 clans at the moment with little improvement in sight.
Any suggestions?
Should we give it a break and run an event-like doubles league or something?
Break down clans further?
vixen_xox
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00:15 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
What if they were reduced to 8 players per clan. That would mean one more clan at least, possibly 2. Also it surely doesn't help when clans have 'non playing captains' just as a means to have one extra player because seriously what is the point in that? That extra player or captain could help toward another clan.
dgeneratio
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01:04 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
If it is 4 or 5, why not play twice in a season? could spread cups out then too
whocares8x8
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01:09 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
If it is 4 or 5, why not play twice in a season? could spread cups out then too
Everyone already plays each other twice with 7 teams. No change there.
dgeneratio
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01:12 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Ah yeah, if numbers are low then possibly add another round of games, just something to keep length the same. Although its more challenging with more teams
vixen_xox
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01:26 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Well, there's CoD, D&C, NA, FSD, what about legends? There are definitely enough players to make atleast another clan and to fill in the ones who don't quite have 10 yet but nobody seems to be bothering just because they think they can't get a 'league winning' team.
dgeneratio
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01:32 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Well, there's CoD, D&C, NA, FSD, what about legends? There are definitely enough players to make atleast another clan and to fill in the ones who don't quite have 10 yet but nobody seems to be bothering just because they think they can't get a 'league winning' team.


True, unfortunately D&C has built a reputation on being one of the best (league stats show possibly the best but can be debatable). However if i made a new clan i would just take anyone i think can be active.

Shame others don't think like it
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12:52 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I know most won't be 2 keen on this but how It's looking at the moment I think it would be best to mix all the top players up. I only joined a clan on here to help eri out when he was struggling for players so I wasn't interested in playing for any other clan but I think this is the only way clans will be worth playing in as It's clear who will win the league straight away before the seasons even started
vixen_xox
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13:52 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I know most won't be 2 keen on this but how It's looking at the moment I think it would be best to mix all the top players up. I only joined a clan on here to help eri out when he was struggling for players so I wasn't interested in playing for any other clan but I think this is the only way clans will be worth playing in as It's clear who will win the league straight away before the seasons even started


I absolutely agree with you, however a lot of the top players only want to play among other top players so it's a catch 22 situation, but it's nice to see that not all of the high class players have that mentality.
dgeneratio
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14:37 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Was thinking 6 colours (e.g. Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Orange and Purple). The top 6 of the Golden Cue make a Captain and each player is Ranked by Golden Cue then Funky Rankings and they take turns picking players but the first pot will be 7-12, Second will be 13-18, Third 19-24 and so on.

You ask, well they will pick the top player but each colour could take a turn of picking first. After they can make a match captain if they like by a clan captain we have now.

Not sure about clan game but could be a side event and format would need to be tweaked. Subs can only sub a tier below or above your class so #1-#6 in Golden Cue which is Tier I can only sub into Tier II (7-12). Tier II can sub into Tier I or III.

You can only transfer if the player is in same Tier and the two players switch to keep balance.

Sounds confusing
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14:56 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
It's gonna be no fun anyway next season If nothing changes. If all teams were split evenly matched It would make things interesting, every team would be able to compete with each other and everyone would fancy there chances of winning something, but as things stand NA will win the league quite easily
thegreatone7
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16:08 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Well, there's CoD, D&C, NA, FSD, what about legends? There are definitely enough players to make atleast another clan and to fill in the ones who don't quite have 10 yet but nobody seems to be bothering just because they think they can't get a 'league winning' team.


True, unfortunately D&C has built a reputation on being one of the best (league stats show possibly the best but can be debatable). However if i made a new clan i would just take anyone i think can be active.

Shame others don't think like it


ive done that since day one. if u named everyone that has joined i dont think i be able to remember them all hence why we must have the highest default rate ever lol
clifton188
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17:55 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
All i wanted to do is win the golden cue and the league and i did both so now i really ain't fussed who i play for and what i play.i just enjoy competing in a clan to make it more fun to play.What james said was interesting though and should look into it to balance the teams out and give everyone a chance.
dgeneratio
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18:15 Thu 23 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I can't take credit mate, was Fuunkys idea
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