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20:20 Sun 15 Mar 15 (GMT) [Link]
sides are hurting woody im actually with laughter
After clifton188 cheated me out of my victory in the clan indiv semi final, I demand democracy and change..
I propose the following......
1) Clifton188 be forced to rematch The Lord
2) All clan individual tournament games and clan cup games must have safe breaks banned. By safe breaks i mean you are banned from snookering your opponent from the break off
This is unfair. I am the greatest of all time/// the clan indiv was MY tournament this season... and clifton cheated me out of it by snookering me from the break in reg and Orig... causing me to obviously foul... and then he clears with 99 breaks in both. How is this fair. This isnt fair. This is the biggest controversy since Pleb-Gate!!!!
And here is another DEMAND
I demand that clan games of Carom.... each player has 3 wins of the lag.... because it is unfair if someone wins 6 lags and scores points all the time. Its essentially giving them breakoffs
THIS IS UNFAIR
I demand a rematch. And change. And clifton to be excluded from all walks of snooker for his bribery of referees
Thank you.
I propose the following......
1) Clifton188 be forced to rematch The Lord
2) All clan individual tournament games and clan cup games must have safe breaks banned. By safe breaks i mean you are banned from snookering your opponent from the break off
This is unfair. I am the greatest of all time/// the clan indiv was MY tournament this season... and clifton cheated me out of it by snookering me from the break in reg and Orig... causing me to obviously foul... and then he clears with 99 breaks in both. How is this fair. This isnt fair. This is the biggest controversy since Pleb-Gate!!!!
And here is another DEMAND
I demand that clan games of Carom.... each player has 3 wins of the lag.... because it is unfair if someone wins 6 lags and scores points all the time. Its essentially giving them breakoffs
THIS IS UNFAIR
I demand a rematch. And change. And clifton to be excluded from all walks of snooker for his bribery of referees
Thank you.
sides are hurting woody im actually with laughter
16:36 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
Can we have a feedback if it was better this season with 10 players then previous seasons?
And also Is this limit going to change for next season or remaining the same? Need to know ASAP so i know how many players i need for next season
And also Is this limit going to change for next season or remaining the same? Need to know ASAP so i know how many players i need for next season
16:39 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
I'm not sure mate, Seb's the statistician but i think it was better at 12 but players may have different views
Two clans certainly struggled though (FSD and Dozen) so it may help them out by raising by two members but if they sort it out maybe 10 could work
My vote would be 12.
Two clans certainly struggled though (FSD and Dozen) so it may help them out by raising by two members but if they sort it out maybe 10 could work
My vote would be 12.
16:56 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
It's not the amount of total players in the team that makes the issue, the activity of players in clans is causing the problems. You can sign 10 or 12 but if they never log in then this will always lead to issues. I say leave it at 10 players per clan and this gives other teams a chance to sign players who want to play in clan games.
FSD hasn't been the worst, I'd love to see that stats thou
FSD hasn't been the worst, I'd love to see that stats thou
17:10 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
true but the captain picks these players, one person was technically only available for two sundays and got picked for pretty much each clan game because he was their best player in that type.
FSD your right, not the worst but struggled once or twice
FSD your right, not the worst but struggled once or twice
18:14 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
I think raising it by 2 players would make it even worse, maybe not for the top clans because there is always an abundance of players wanting to join, but for smaller or newly formed clans I'm not sure how raising the team number will make the situation any better when some were struggling with 10.
18:30 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
I get that with 12 there's extra subs but I'd assume that with bigger teams the games that were dropped when we went down to 10 will be reinstated. So it'd just be the same issues just on more games per fixture.
18:34 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
I didn't think of that but i think the types are fine
I get that with 12 there's extra subs but I'd assume that with bigger teams the games that were dropped when we went down to 10 will be reinstated. So it'd just be the same issues just on more games per fixture.
I didn't think of that but i think the types are fine
18:38 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
not sure but we used to have two in every type except Power, i think two Mixed will distort the balance
21:53 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
Just increase team sizes to 12 and leave the same amount of games in my opinion.
22:11 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
leave it the same I think.
DD did have issues but we were just one reliable player short and that was due to unforeseen circumstances early in the season. everyone else seemed to do ok and DD will not continue after this season.
increasing the team size will lead to more teams struggling to find players as the "bigger" teams will be have more space to take better players from smaller teams, or take new players who could fill spaces in smaller teams who need them. the smaller teams will not just struggle but the competitiveness of the league in general will be affected.
p.s.
I think we're all aware of why this discussion is really taking place
DD did have issues but we were just one reliable player short and that was due to unforeseen circumstances early in the season. everyone else seemed to do ok and DD will not continue after this season.
increasing the team size will lead to more teams struggling to find players as the "bigger" teams will be have more space to take better players from smaller teams, or take new players who could fill spaces in smaller teams who need them. the smaller teams will not just struggle but the competitiveness of the league in general will be affected.
p.s.
I think we're all aware of why this discussion is really taking place
22:34 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
increasing the team size will lead to more teams struggling to find players as the "bigger" teams will be have more space to take better players from smaller teams
It doesnt make sense at all, u were one of those "bigger" teams and had more defaults than smaller teams. The problem here isnt that there arent enough players, but because the so called "bigger" teams you say prefer inactive players over active ones just because they are better players.
p.s.
I think we're all aware of why this discussion is really taking place
Enlighten us please! I want to know
increasing the team size will lead to more teams struggling to find players as the "bigger" teams will be have more space to take better players from smaller teams
It doesnt make sense at all, u were one of those "bigger" teams and had more defaults than smaller teams. The problem here isnt that there arent enough players, but because the so called "bigger" teams you say prefer inactive players over active ones just because they are better players.
p.s.
I think we're all aware of why this discussion is really taking place
Enlighten us please! I want to know
22:40 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
In D&C Seb has always turned down 'class' players i suggest to him as he wants an even competitive league for all clans, sure some are not as strong as others but you always get that in competitions.
Only time the class players really join us is if they really want to and Seb is satisfied.
We even look at Poolers sometimes who can play Snooker like Pete (Lures), Owen (Obieee), Jimmy (okay maybe not ) and few little gems out there people don't know of.
Only time the class players really join us is if they really want to and Seb is satisfied.
We even look at Poolers sometimes who can play Snooker like Pete (Lures), Owen (Obieee), Jimmy (okay maybe not ) and few little gems out there people don't know of.
22:54 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
yes thats cos I didn't try and steal other teams best players at transfer window after we lost a couple of our players early in the season. I tried to find players from elsewhere but it didn't work. the only way to know if players are active is if they are already active in clans.
and since you signed so many players for next season you're essentially assassins secretary cos you won't be playing any games if each clan is limited to 10 cos you won't make the cut
and I'll also point out vixen_xox agreed it should stay at 10 for the same reasons I gave and she is the captain of a smaller clan
and since you signed so many players for next season you're essentially assassins secretary cos you won't be playing any games if each clan is limited to 10 cos you won't make the cut
and I'll also point out vixen_xox agreed it should stay at 10 for the same reasons I gave and she is the captain of a smaller clan
23:07 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
and since you signed so many players for next season you're essentially assassins secretary cos you won't be playing any games if each clan is limited to 10 cos you won't make the cut
I love that part of my job but thanks for worrying about my number of games i play in a season
and I'll also point out vixen_xox agreed it should stay at 10 for the same reasons I gave and she is the captain of a smaller clan
I dont mind if it stays at 10 or at 12 too, but i just asked if this season we had less defaults than previous seasons. And just expressed my opinion that i like it at 12 players. Im allowed to express it, aint I?
and since you signed so many players for next season you're essentially assassins secretary cos you won't be playing any games if each clan is limited to 10 cos you won't make the cut
I love that part of my job but thanks for worrying about my number of games i play in a season
and I'll also point out vixen_xox agreed it should stay at 10 for the same reasons I gave and she is the captain of a smaller clan
I dont mind if it stays at 10 or at 12 too, but i just asked if this season we had less defaults than previous seasons. And just expressed my opinion that i like it at 12 players. Im allowed to express it, aint I?
23:13 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
Theres already not alot of players out there and with all the better players in better teams teams like mine struggle to get 10 players nether mind 12 i feel 10 is more than enough player to play a season with any more than that u might see clans fold not created
Just my opinoin
Just my opinoin
23:30 Thu 2 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
For us what started our struggle was when 2 of our back bone players left its hard to fibd players that stay active and dont have to bother then cuz i know the game will be played lucky next season picked up so relable players soo fingers crossed have a good season
02:16 Fri 3 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
It's a bit late so I wont go into detail tonight.
I think the struggle with defaults has nothing to do with clan sizes though. 10 players for 6 games is more than enough.
I can't wrap my head around why all clans choose to leave it to the very end to get all their games done. Im guessing the rate of games played on the very last day of each fixture must be close to 40%. That's simply ridiculous and no increase in clan sizes will change that mentality.
What we have done is rigorously evaluate defaults based on the effort over the whole fixture. The teams that are not completing their games are suffering from it and rightly so.
I think it just fits in with the course the site as a whole has been taking for a long time now.
Teams must either get away from finishing everything at the last second or we'll continue to have an increase in defaults.
I think the struggle with defaults has nothing to do with clan sizes though. 10 players for 6 games is more than enough.
I can't wrap my head around why all clans choose to leave it to the very end to get all their games done. Im guessing the rate of games played on the very last day of each fixture must be close to 40%. That's simply ridiculous and no increase in clan sizes will change that mentality.
What we have done is rigorously evaluate defaults based on the effort over the whole fixture. The teams that are not completing their games are suffering from it and rightly so.
I think it just fits in with the course the site as a whole has been taking for a long time now.
Teams must either get away from finishing everything at the last second or we'll continue to have an increase in defaults.
02:49 Fri 3 Apr 15 (BST) [Link]
Well when you have players that log in once or twice throughout the entire 2 weeks making no effort to get a game played and then log in a few hours before deadline acting like theyre trying their hardest to arrange their game and have been consistently active it's kinda hard, whether they are the lazy/inactive player or their opponent. CoD had 3 defaults throughout the entire season (2 of which were in the very last fixture) the clans seem to dwindle toward the end of the season and people become lazier than usual, whether it be because winners are already declared or game results won't make any difference, as far as I was aware all games should be completed regardless. The problem begins when captains put in players who are the best at their type, as a guaranteed win, regardless of their inactivity, it all ends in one giant panic on the deadline evening. There is no incentive for players to play their games any quicker and people rely on the fact 'I have two weeks to play this' and it still ends up going to deadline weekend,it's a problem when their opponents have been active the rest of the time but are busy weekends or evenings.Then it's down to captains to scrape for available subs when there possibly are none,just because an opponent decided 'Hey it's deadline day and I'm active' .. I wanted a shorter deadline period last season for this very reason, at the very least as an incentive for people to shift their butts, but it probably still won't stop the last minute panic
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