You can't say that you hate Newcastle due to their fans saying that it's a big club then come out and say that Everton are bigger than Chelsea & Arsenal.

Especially using the fact that they founded the Football League as a reason, how does that have any reasoning on their size?

Everton are definitely not as big as you are making out, and the way you seem to judge big clubs, definitely aren't "clearly" a big club either.

Everton are deffinatly a bigger club than Chelsea..who were chelsea before Abramovich injected them with his billions they were a boring club, dont get me wrong i like chelsea but they arnt a big club

Edited at 19:59 Sun 22/02/09 (GMT)

So Everton are a big club because they founded the football league and finish 5th/6th a couple of timesm while Chelsea aren't a big club despite finishing 2nd the last couple of seasons, winning it a couple of times and getting to the final of the Champions League?

I think I should start following Rugby.

cba arguin with you Everton are a bigger club than Chelsea, if Everton had all that money we would finish second, win it and get to the champions league final.

Anyway Everton are a far bigger club than Newcastle.

It might be better you stop trying to put your point accross because there really is no logic to it.

Okay whatever you say, maybe you might win something in the next 50 odd years, then again maybe not

Ahhh that age-old thing, if I was into football just for the winning I wouldn't support Newcastle, but that's not what it's primarily about for me.

Anyway I'm not the one claiming my club is bigger than two of the most successful English clubs in recent times. Surely by your theory you should have won more than the FA Cup in the past 20 or so years? May be an even longer period of time, I only had a quick look.

Anyway, you can't be that much bigger/better than us if you can't beat us when we have 10 men for over a half.

Money doesn't equal success. You've got to know what to do with it and buy the right players.

Just look at Manchester City. Arguably, they have the most money of any football club in the world, yet where are they?

With the manager you have, you'd be lucky to finish better than you do now with lots of money.

we won it in 1995 and are in the quarter final of it this season against either west ham or middlesborough 2 teams we should beat so who knows?

You should beat Newcastle when we have 10 men, especially going by what you're making Everton to be, but that didn't happen did it?

Well stoke City were the second club to become professional in 1863 so if I follow this logic we are one of the biggest clubs? also, Everton are a huge club but so are newcastle, Nobody can use the excuse 'Its the only club in the city' that makes no difference becuase honestly you can still support man utd or liverpool wether your from Newcastle or Liverpool!

Also as for chelsea I think any team in the country would finish in the top 6 if they had that kind of money.

I respect both teams newcastle and everton becuase they are different and you no newcastles manager is in hospital and the owner is not trying the par to make the club suceed but the fans that are turning up are the loyal ones and atleast they are backing the club through thick and thin!

Hold on...its never easy playing against 10 men especially when they keep pressing like newcastle did today..plus effectively we went down to 10 men 2 minutes in when our best player of late got stretcherd of to be replaced by Castillo who never done anything and isnt match fit..ah well i will take a point..another point closer to europe as i said earlier

Also, using your argument of "we created the football league so we are bigger than Chelsea", these teams are also bigger than Chelsea.

Accrington, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Bolton Wanderers, Burnley, Derby County, Everton, Notts County, Preston North End, Stoke, West Bromwich Albion, Wolverhampton Wanderers

OMG! that wasnt my only reason, you moderators seriously need to get out of each other!

The mods don't always stick up for each other they are just like me call it how they see it really

Well they always seem to see it how the other sees it, plus other normal member are always sucking up to them like they are some sort of super human or something i just find it quite pathetic the way people are scared to disagree with them

Haha that stupid little thing again. We have our own opinions, and the things you come up with, it's no surprise they're different to yours!

I could know far more about football than you but because your a mod people automatically think ,oh god its toontomh i must obey' its stupid!

You must not have read this when the_kop is posting as well then..

I have some good banter with the_kop because he seems to have his own opinion and people always come on sucking up to him too because of his 'status' on the game