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08:21 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Wow, nail on the head...ish
thevolunteer said:
chelsea are hated because they have all money and NO CLASS!!!!!
just a few points on chelsea, their size and fanbase, and their history.
1.....Top tier of home stand virtually empty for arguably their biggest match of the season at home to barcelona!
2....FREE flags to try and create atmosphere
3....Cannot attract the worlds best players (only the greedy ie torres, robinho, ronaldo, gerrard to name but a few wouldn't sign)
4....1 referee has retired and 1 is in hiding due to threats made to them - did the referee score the goal that put them out - no - did he send of a barca player when chelsea were 1 - 0 up for another dive by a chelsea player - yes - conspiracy dont make me laugh.
5....players and supporters that are <not the nicest wording> and show no humility or respect to other players, their supporters (remember the hillborough memorial), or match officials....
thats why chelsea are hated - nothing to do with winning more premier leagues......
form is temporary - true class is permanent!!!!
Edited by forum moderator virtuoso107, at 13:21 Sat 9/05/09 (BST)
just a few points on chelsea, their size and fanbase, and their history.
1.....Top tier of home stand virtually empty for arguably their biggest match of the season at home to barcelona!
2....FREE flags to try and create atmosphere
3....Cannot attract the worlds best players (only the greedy ie torres, robinho, ronaldo, gerrard to name but a few wouldn't sign)
4....1 referee has retired and 1 is in hiding due to threats made to them - did the referee score the goal that put them out - no - did he send of a barca player when chelsea were 1 - 0 up for another dive by a chelsea player - yes - conspiracy dont make me laugh.
5....players and supporters that are <not the nicest wording> and show no humility or respect to other players, their supporters (remember the hillborough memorial), or match officials....
thats why chelsea are hated - nothing to do with winning more premier leagues......
form is temporary - true class is permanent!!!!
Edited by forum moderator virtuoso107, at 13:21 Sat 9/05/09 (BST)
Wow, nail on the head...ish
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09:24 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Anyone justifying Drogbas actions need to look at themselves.
You tell me last time Liverpool players surounded the ref? nah cos we have never done it. Masch got sent of for a lot less than what Drogba/Ballack/Lampard/Terry did the other day.
As the post mentioned above, 1 ref had to retire due to Chelsea, another has just had to flee the country because of death threats.
I have always hated Chelsea because of their fans disrespecting Hillsborough time after time. There is no excuse, Utd, ok we give as good was we get and we're local rivals, but Chelsea....?
As the post above said, they have no CLASS, no Humility, look at the players they have employed recently.
Drogba
Kezmann
Mutu
Robben
Malouda
Essien
A. Cole
lampard
Players like Ivanavic who knocked us out I have no problem with, in fact their manager is one of the best and has class as well.
But the core of their team is based around whining, diving, intimidating and cheating. If that wins them more than us fine, we will play our own fair way.
Anyone disagreeing that we play fairly, do a bit of research, have a look at the fair play league that we win every single year.
United are near the bottom - just have a look.
Edited at 14:32 Sat 9/05/09 (BST)
You tell me last time Liverpool players surounded the ref? nah cos we have never done it. Masch got sent of for a lot less than what Drogba/Ballack/Lampard/Terry did the other day.
As the post mentioned above, 1 ref had to retire due to Chelsea, another has just had to flee the country because of death threats.
I have always hated Chelsea because of their fans disrespecting Hillsborough time after time. There is no excuse, Utd, ok we give as good was we get and we're local rivals, but Chelsea....?
As the post above said, they have no CLASS, no Humility, look at the players they have employed recently.
Drogba
Kezmann
Mutu
Robben
Malouda
Essien
A. Cole
lampard
Players like Ivanavic who knocked us out I have no problem with, in fact their manager is one of the best and has class as well.
But the core of their team is based around whining, diving, intimidating and cheating. If that wins them more than us fine, we will play our own fair way.
Anyone disagreeing that we play fairly, do a bit of research, have a look at the fair play league that we win every single year.
United are near the bottom - just have a look.
Edited at 14:32 Sat 9/05/09 (BST)
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09:27 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Anyone disagreeing that we play fairly, do a bit of research, have a look at the fair play league that we win every single year.
United are at the bottom - just have a look.
And who are the only team this season who havent had a red card?
hmmmmm
Edited at 14:32 Sat 9/05/09 (BST)
the_kop said:
Anyone disagreeing that we play fairly, do a bit of research, have a look at the fair play league that we win every single year.
United are at the bottom - just have a look.
And who are the only team this season who havent had a red card?
hmmmmm
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http://www.premierleague.com/page/Statistics/0,,12306,00.html
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Statistics/0,,12306,00.html
Edited at 14:32 Sat 9/05/09 (BST)
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09:31 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Yup just one red in all competitions - Lucas against the bitters.
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09:36 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Did you also know, If the games where only 45 minutes long (finished at half time). Chelsea would be at the top of the table. Liverpool would be 5th :O
1 Chelsea 64
2 Man Utd 62
3 Arsenal 57
4 Manchester City 55
5 Liverpool 54
6 West Ham Utd 54
7 Fulham 53
Newcastle would be 19th!
1 Chelsea 64
2 Man Utd 62
3 Arsenal 57
4 Manchester City 55
5 Liverpool 54
6 West Ham Utd 54
7 Fulham 53
Newcastle would be 19th!
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10:05 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Lol, the premier league website has loads of interesting, yet useless stats
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10:17 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
heres some uselss but interesting stats
Evertons average attendance is 35,443 - only 7,000 more than Boro's
Liverpool have scored the most goals this season. 1.97 goals per match - 69 so far.
Stoke city have the worst discipline in the premiership. 73 yellows and 5 reds.
Utd have the 3rd worst - 62 yellows and 5 reds
In the half time league, Middlesborough would be 13th - Stoke City 17th.
In the Away league Hull City would be 8th
In the Home league, Hull City would be 20th.
Evertons average attendance is 35,443 - only 7,000 more than Boro's
Liverpool have scored the most goals this season. 1.97 goals per match - 69 so far.
Stoke city have the worst discipline in the premiership. 73 yellows and 5 reds.
Utd have the 3rd worst - 62 yellows and 5 reds
In the half time league, Middlesborough would be 13th - Stoke City 17th.
In the Away league Hull City would be 8th
In the Home league, Hull City would be 20th.
10:19 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Absolutely 100% agree.
You ARE joking right? Every single team does it, just not every team gets to experience 93rd minute robbery in the Champions League semi-final, there's no parallel whatsoever with what Chelsea had go against them.
What have these players done against you? Essien? Probably the most honest player I've seen in a long time, what on earth you've got against him I don't know! I'm no Chelsea fan by any means, but some of the comments here are absurd and completely founded on, and tarnished by, hatred.
efc_4_eva said:
I just think the chelsea - Barca game was a complete farce, and to be honest i dont blame Drogba for how he acted, he had the right to do so.
I wanted chelsea to win as i have always liked them for some reason plus if they won they would have to play the final 3 days b4 the fa cup final which could have resulted in tiredness, weakend team etc. the only reason liverpool fans hate chelsea is because they are good, and they have nocked them out of competitions and beat them on numerous occasions !? what other reason have they got?
I wanted chelsea to win as i have always liked them for some reason plus if they won they would have to play the final 3 days b4 the fa cup final which could have resulted in tiredness, weakend team etc. the only reason liverpool fans hate chelsea is because they are good, and they have nocked them out of competitions and beat them on numerous occasions !? what other reason have they got?
Absolutely 100% agree.
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You tell me last time Liverpool players surounded the ref? nah cos we have never done it. Masch got sent of for a lot less than what Drogba/Ballack/Lampard/Terry did the other day.
You ARE joking right? Every single team does it, just not every team gets to experience 93rd minute robbery in the Champions League semi-final, there's no parallel whatsoever with what Chelsea had go against them.
the_kop said:
As the post above said, they have no CLASS, no Humility, look at the players they have employed recently.
Drogba
Kezmann
Mutu
Robben
Malouda
Essien
A. Cole
lampard
Drogba
Kezmann
Mutu
Robben
Malouda
Essien
A. Cole
lampard
What have these players done against you? Essien? Probably the most honest player I've seen in a long time, what on earth you've got against him I don't know! I'm no Chelsea fan by any means, but some of the comments here are absurd and completely founded on, and tarnished by, hatred.
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10:22 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
That is bad. i feel for the season ticket holders. Watching your side loose at home but then watch them on the tele at home and they win/draw.
What a start they had, knew it wouldnt last.
Oh while i am here, need some advice . I aint much of a book fan, but jeff stelling has a book out. Its in asda for a tenner. Tempted to get it coz i love soccer saturday with him. Just wondered if anyone read it and would reccommend it?
the_kop said:
heres some uselss but interesting stats
Evertons average attendance is 35,443 - only 7,000 more than Boro's
Liverpool have scored the most goals this season. 1.97 goals per match - 69 so far.
Stoke city have the worst discipline in the premiership. 73 yellows and 5 reds.
Utd have the 3rd worst - 62 yellows and 5 reds
In the half time league, Middlesborough would be 13th - Stoke City 17th.
In the Away league Hull City would be 8th
In the Home league, Hull City would be 20th.
Evertons average attendance is 35,443 - only 7,000 more than Boro's
Liverpool have scored the most goals this season. 1.97 goals per match - 69 so far.
Stoke city have the worst discipline in the premiership. 73 yellows and 5 reds.
Utd have the 3rd worst - 62 yellows and 5 reds
In the half time league, Middlesborough would be 13th - Stoke City 17th.
In the Away league Hull City would be 8th
In the Home league, Hull City would be 20th.
That is bad. i feel for the season ticket holders. Watching your side loose at home but then watch them on the tele at home and they win/draw.
What a start they had, knew it wouldnt last.
Oh while i am here, need some advice . I aint much of a book fan, but jeff stelling has a book out. Its in asda for a tenner. Tempted to get it coz i love soccer saturday with him. Just wondered if anyone read it and would reccommend it?
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10:27 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Every team does it? Give me one example of a Liverpool team doing it......
I'll go through every one of them players.
Drogba - complete and utter farce of a "footballer", he should be an actress, swearing down the camera on Wednesday just cos he couldn't score from 6 yards out.
Kezmann, ok nothing, I got him confused with Mutu, forgot to take him out!
Mutu - not exactly a role model is he? Banned for 7 motnhs for drugs. get out of our game.
Robben - Did you see how he got Pepe Reina sent off, thrown himself to the ground as if Pep punched him. Again actress and cheat.
Malouda - diverr
Essien - His challange on Dida Hamann which was one of worst i've ever seen, he got booked for it!! and what was worst, argued against it!!
A. Cole - got a bit of respect from me when he shown some class by not surrounding the ref. Hes in and out of trouble all the time with police, and always in the papers. Not the back pages - the front - again not a role model.
Lampard - continuois bad tackles on Alonso, talks alot of crap about him in papers as well. Also - might need to put a roof over his childrens heads before his own belly
Am not saying this cos i hate them, this is why I hate them. See I can back my point up with examples...
Edited at 15:34 Sat 9/05/09 (BST)
I'll go through every one of them players.
Drogba - complete and utter farce of a "footballer", he should be an actress, swearing down the camera on Wednesday just cos he couldn't score from 6 yards out.
Kezmann, ok nothing, I got him confused with Mutu, forgot to take him out!
Mutu - not exactly a role model is he? Banned for 7 motnhs for drugs. get out of our game.
Robben - Did you see how he got Pepe Reina sent off, thrown himself to the ground as if Pep punched him. Again actress and cheat.
Malouda - diverr
Essien - His challange on Dida Hamann which was one of worst i've ever seen, he got booked for it!! and what was worst, argued against it!!
A. Cole - got a bit of respect from me when he shown some class by not surrounding the ref. Hes in and out of trouble all the time with police, and always in the papers. Not the back pages - the front - again not a role model.
Lampard - continuois bad tackles on Alonso, talks alot of crap about him in papers as well. Also - might need to put a roof over his childrens heads before his own belly
Am not saying this cos i hate them, this is why I hate them. See I can back my point up with examples...
Edited at 15:34 Sat 9/05/09 (BST)
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10:36 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Ahhhh yes and I forgot about Le Sulk.
10-15 different clubs causes trouble wherever he goes and I for one am so happy we got shut of him.
10-15 different clubs causes trouble wherever he goes and I for one am so happy we got shut of him.
10:40 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
You're making me laugh, nice one for that! You don't think I could say this about most of Liverpool's team? Gerrard's been in just as much trouble with police as anyone in recent times, and he's your captain? You're saying Mascherano doesn't throw himself around the pitch, doesn't make reckless challenges? Seeing Carragher's mug in a referee's face every second game is not something I want to see. Remember Liverpool beat Chelsea 2-0? Carragher could have wrote a book with everything he said to the ref during that game, and Chelsea were the team robbed on that day with Lampard being sent off for a perfectly reasonable challenge on Alonso! Gerrard makes reckless tackles every other game too. You need to stop letting your hatred of a club distorting your views on players, I know for sure you wouldn't hate them if they played for your team.
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10:46 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Niallo, there is nothing more childish than saying "thanks for making me laugh" it really frusutrates me, thankfully dont see much of that on here.
Gerrard is up in court for Affray - if he is found guilty then he has been stupid - but i'll cross that bridge when it comes to it.
Can't remember any rash tackles from Mascherano - hes been sent off once that was because he complained about a refereeing decision (was it as bad as Drogba/Ballack on wednesday (well was it!!??)
Never seen Carra go up to the referee in any decision that does not involve himself - has anybody else??
Last Reckless tackle Gerrard made was against Everton - it was a few years ago, and was sent off. 1 game ban.
I would be most upset if Liverpool were to buy any of the players I named.
Edited at 15:50 Sat 9/05/09 (BST)
Gerrard is up in court for Affray - if he is found guilty then he has been stupid - but i'll cross that bridge when it comes to it.
Can't remember any rash tackles from Mascherano - hes been sent off once that was because he complained about a refereeing decision (was it as bad as Drogba/Ballack on wednesday (well was it!!??)
Never seen Carra go up to the referee in any decision that does not involve himself - has anybody else??
Last Reckless tackle Gerrard made was against Everton - it was a few years ago, and was sent off. 1 game ban.
I would be most upset if Liverpool were to buy any of the players I named.
Edited at 15:50 Sat 9/05/09 (BST)
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10:56 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
Dont think that am being Biassed either.
I could name many past/present liverpool players that I do not like - not because of their footballing ability but for the type of people they were.
Anelka (as mentioned)
Diouf (spitting at people, diving and arrogant)
Itandje (discussed him a while back laughing at Hillsborough memorial)
Keane (crap when he played, moaned when he didn't still moaning now)
I could name many past/present liverpool players that I do not like - not because of their footballing ability but for the type of people they were.
Anelka (as mentioned)
Diouf (spitting at people, diving and arrogant)
Itandje (discussed him a while back laughing at Hillsborough memorial)
Keane (crap when he played, moaned when he didn't still moaning now)
10:56 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
What's wrong with saying you make me laugh? It's more an expression than anything malicious, my apologies if I offended you! I'd have thought every decision that goes against Liverpool involves Carragher? I often see him in the face of referees moaning. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, almost every player does it, and with good reason. Being robbed in a Champions League semi final is worthy of confronting a referee over, I know I would have gone mad, in fact I'd probably have knocked the referee out
You pointed out a bad Essien challenge...I've never seen him make a bad challenge, he's probably my favourite player in the Premier League. If he made one bad challenge, that means nothing. If he's doing it regularly, I'd have an issue. Anyway I'm bored of this topic now, I'm trying to get 900 in arcade, I'll leave you be
You pointed out a bad Essien challenge...I've never seen him make a bad challenge, he's probably my favourite player in the Premier League. If he made one bad challenge, that means nothing. If he's doing it regularly, I'd have an issue. Anyway I'm bored of this topic now, I'm trying to get 900 in arcade, I'll leave you be
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11:29 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
I thnik Drogba was quite right to say what he said it was a disgrace.
And regarding players gettin involed in arguements with the ref. How can you say no Liverpool player does that? Are you joking? Every single team does that and quite rightly. It just shows they have a passion for they're team.
And regarding players gettin involed in arguements with the ref. How can you say no Liverpool player does that? Are you joking? Every single team does that and quite rightly. It just shows they have a passion for they're team.
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11:29 Sat 9 May 09 (BST) [Link]
I think Drogba and Ronaldo dive far too often and in the same areas too. No wonder most refs turn their back on it now. Two of the worlds best players too, what a shame.
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