that's a great move nick
i must admit when i first started on this site i was confused, because when i learnt the game i was always taught that the black can only be scored from once. (when it is the only ball left on the table obviously)

thanks

Great stuff Nick this has bugged me since day one (although I must admit there have been one or two frames in the dim and distant past where I have won because there was no 1st foul on black rule )

Thanks.

I was informed that after respotting black the text "player1 to break" is incorrect after this change. (EDIT: Fixed now.)

Edited by forum moderator nick, at 14:39 Mon 22/02/10 (GMT)

I don't really like this rule to be honest.

It means that you can't mess about with the black trying ridiculous trick shots untill the scores are up in the hundreds anymore .



Edited at 05:22 Tue 23/02/10 (GMT)

i was really good at angling people when i was over 7 points behind. i know its not in the real rules, but this is funkysnooker, and it was my special skill. i demand compensation!!! also why has the (previous) rank been taken from people profiles? a lot of people worked hard for those ranks, i knew theyd be forgotten.... don't think thats fair

Nice one Nick

One think I don't like is that this rule has been put in on the practice table as well, which isn't really necessary and it means you can't practice on the black without fouling.

I liked being able to practice with just the black on the table because I could try doubles/triples etc. And if the white went in I could just carry on. But now if the white goes in I have to pot all the colours again untill I'm back down to just the black.

Would it be a good idea for this rule to not be included in practice?

this rule is weird as i was 48-42 up and black was left but i couldnt pot it but i went in off and i still won wouldnt that mean black respot and 49-48 to opponent with black

Budweiser, it would be incorrect if you won in that case (unless your opponent left) but it is right that the ball should not be respotted.

Jaaaames, all rules should be consistent between practice and in-game.

nick am not joking honestly it did say that , if happens again ill show you , i did paste it to dame as i was speaking to him to also take a look! black was only ball left and it said Game: first foul on black or somethink like that , i maybe wrong tho

OK, but the winner should definitely have been the one with the most points at game end.

Hi nick can you have a browse over the following thread

i mistakenly started a new thread on this problem

http://www.funkysnooker.com/thread/6771/so-we-can-foul-on-black-on-purpose-and-win-the-frame

also if you kindly have a word with the moderator who decided to resort to insulting me that would be much apreciated too, just pointing out a few points and really dont need this sort of reply from the team.

Thanks.

the main point which apalchi brought up

is that yes the rules are now currently in line as close to the real rules

however

with the computer not being able to determine wether or not a foul is deliberately played or not on final black.

id say this makes the rule thats implemented somewhat of a farce.

If they're 14 points up (in fact 8 or more points up) with just the black to play they've won - the next score or foul determines the game regardless of whether they're angled out on the black.

It isn't that big a deal whether they pot, miss or deliberately foul as they've won before they take the shot.

shouldnt the frame automatically end in that case after the pink is potted.

If your allowing the player to pot the black and enhance his break he should surely be penalised if he fouls.

I only question this because i have played for snooker team over the years and ive seen the black respotted from a foul before allowing a player to get back into the frame and go on to win.

Unless its such a random rule that the leagues are overlooking it.

Which wouldnt surprise me. lol

Edited at 22:33 Sat 06/03/10 (GMT)

do see your point nick, basically the final black dosnt matter, because there is no call frame option i suppose!

How comes then....on the practice table.....on funkypool.....when you pot the black.....you can carry on with the rest of the balls??

eh??

Loved the "eh" bit

i used this rule once to my advantage in an original speed tournament, 9 points up, 1 minute left, i thought right were both not getting DQ so i peed him off by potting the white meaning i won, im not proud of it but i used it so i could carryon in a tournament.

but yes unless you are way ahead, say 15 points before you foul on the black the frame should carryon.

also the rule in tournies where after 3 snookers game ends automatically, it should be brought in, in normal games, once i told my opponent i had an invite, i pressed play not knowing it was 90 seconds at the time, this was 5 minutes before the invite, i clearly won when we got to pink, i said i had an invite and he time wasted by letting the full 90 secs to run down knowing i would have to leave for my invite.

EDIT: typos

Edited at 10:05 Tue 23/03/10 (GMT)

yeah thats happend to we the other day i was about 11 points a head and i fouled on the black and it automatically ended the game