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cue_power
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06:47 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
m_wood said:
If 20 guys joined Funkysnooker and knocked out 10 thousand 107s each, you would still say the 'old guys' were better. You just put some on a pedastool. Snooker has evolved my friend.


Interesting that the "old breed" currently dominate the 107's table. I count at least 35 "old" players in the top 50

So until the day this happens...
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07:49 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ure kinda like my grandad, everything was better back then!

what? without me?

yeh definetly, u just annoy me harry, sorry.

oh, okay...
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08:16 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
1. Rename this to Old vs New breed? (Oh yeah theres something called that...)

2. You can only compare 2 generations when they play each other. So we'd need players like Lyle/Ste/Destiny to play Tyler/Cam/Sean in as longer match as possible.

3. Hearing who Brent might have been on a previous account I would actually put him more old skool than new. (IMO) Also where do you put Seb? As i don't see him in either to be honest. Maybe just put him in robot category?
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10:03 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
m_wood said:
Theres a difference between tapping and nudging. I see nothing wrong in Tapping from break and then tapping balls out of the way with cannons etc.... Nudging is the pet hate. But then again some people play like a Gust of wind cough cough, just nudge the entire game without even trying to make the balls move.


Yeah they do. And some others keep cutting their connection when losing in a tourny game to try and run the clock down. I can't decide which is worse
whocares8x8
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12:33 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
cue_power said:
Interesting that the "old breed" currently dominate the 107's table. I count at least 35 "old" players in the top 50

So until the day this happens...
Not really. They've had many more years to get there...
In theory, if I can beat you every time with a 60 every time I come to the table, but hit no cents, would that make someone else a better player?

like mooney said- if you don't have direct comparison, you can't tell. If Pele had been playing in the premier league today, we'd have no idea if he'd be any good.

This thread was really about who are the best players at the moment I thought.
dgeneratio
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12:44 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
only one in arcade who can compare to old school imo is tyler

few close ones like flame_sword/Seb/budweiser but the rest don't give me that feeling.
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13:54 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Arcade is easy if you did a best of 21 chances are the loser would still get at least 8 frames

Arcade is 70% skill and 30% luck for a normal players, better players it goes 80-20 90-10 but the fact is that it is so easy to clear a table

Clearing it with a maximum requires at some point taking a risk for the sake of position most of the 'new gen' aren't prepared to do this as far as I can tell.

This is why I don't do brilliantly in tournaments I'm constantly taking a risk to try and get the 107 and the other guy comes to the table and knocks in a 60 break.

Edited at 10:59 Sat 15/10/11 (BST)
whocares8x8
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18:20 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Maybe we can say that the old players hit more maxes back in the day. That's about it. Race to 100 should still be fairly even.
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22:09 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I agree with cuey on this one. However, people can play how they want so it's up to them, I won't complain. I just don't see the point in taking baulk colours all the time when you can actually make it a bit more interesting and more exciting by going for higher colours, as well as being able to get higher breaks. Who doesn't want to equal or beat their highest break?

Those of you who know me well on here, know that I always play for black, always take the black if it's on. If I lose position, I go for long blues instead of baulk colours etc. I take doubles if I can't pot something rather than play safe.

I think it's a far better/funner way to play than just playing for a win; over the years I just don't really care about winning anymore I guess that's just my mentality haha.

I'm not saying you should always play like me (like I said it's up to you how you play), but I'm just voicing my opinion.
jay_afc
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22:50 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
1. magical_cue
2. ste_efc
3. destiny
4. sean_paul
5. quick_pot / kaison / budweiser / cue_power / ragefire / jaaaames / n_e_r_d etc.

But then again, I am a bit biased. One thing for sure...steven (magical_cue) is number one.
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22:53 Sat 15 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
All the top 10 in the max break then
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01:31 Sun 16 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
just to settle it, just get top 5 players then battle it out
cue_power
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18:28 Sun 16 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
cue_power said:
Interesting that the "old breed" currently dominate the 107's table. I count at least 35 "old" players in the top 50

So until the day this happens...
Not really. They've had many more years to get there...
In theory, if I can beat you every time with a 60 every time I come to the table, but hit no cents, would that make someone else a better player?

like mooney said- if you don't have direct comparison, you can't tell. If Pele had been playing in the premier league today, we'd have no idea if he'd be any good.


I dont think it would make you a great player, I would use the word solid. I'll be honest Seb, you are brilliant and I dont think I have actually seen you miss a shot. But you dont wow me like Damee or Lyle. Adam refers to you as a robot, which is the word I would use, just because your play is very robotic. I personally dont think thats fun or great, its just solid.

The football comparison ahhh, well, now we have the greatest footballer on the planet in Lionel Messi, that cannot be disputed by Maradonna or Pele.

Also the top 50 107's chart, the "new breed" have had plenty of time to make the top 50. You need 8 or something? These "new players" have been here for ages! They have all played more frames than me...
whocares8x8
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18:32 Sun 16 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
So you're saying even if the newer players beat the old players, you still wouldn't consider them better, because you don't like their style of play?
dgeneratio
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18:36 Sun 16 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
to be fair to everyone it is arcade we are talking about here and i don't think old school or new breed is better than the other, because one frame of arcade doesn't make you a good player as someone said 95% of users could clear very easily in arcade.

think slatty hit the nail on the head.

now original theres a different story.
cue_power
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18:47 Sun 16 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I suppose so Seb.

To me this is a fun site. I dont take much fun out of playing frames with baulkers or players that lack effort, optimism and vision.

Now im not top 5, but I could easily baulk victories aginst any of the top 5 of the nominated players and I have already beat them all. I have superb stats against the best players on this site with arcade, I lead players like Jaaaames 95 to 37 and he is awesome, he is incredible at this site.

All this talk of arcade is anyones game - which is my point.

Its not winning, its how you win.
whocares8x8
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18:52 Sun 16 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
mmm we won't agree here.
Ste won't either I think: "To be the best you have to beat the best."
cue_power
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19:12 Sun 16 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I dont want anyones approval Lol

I dont base my opinion on hopes that Ste will agree with me

We cant even establish a top 5 so "beating the best"... would be tough, but the hardest part would be finding them.
damee
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23:10 Sun 16 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
The only noticeable difference between the old and new breed is the fact that the old breed set the records (like me and Lyle hitting the first 147's on orig and reg respectively)

Playing styles may be different, but that's the way it goes. It's not all based on massive breaks (even though that's what I ten to go for) but there are players out there who if they could be bothered, could whack in massive breaks all the time, but they strive for rank more.

The game has become easier, but you see bigger breaks than what you used to (Like on orig only 3 year ago it was very rare to see a century, 10 cents would make you #1 on most cents)

But basically, stop moaning and just play
cue_power
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01:02 Mon 17 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Nobody is moaning here except you Dame you hypocrit, bite me!

Lets use real snooker players. Steve Davis, great player made big breaks and was unbeatable. Stephen Hendry, brilliant and argueably the best ever.

Even though they may have better stats, or better win % in my eyes and many others, they dont compare to Ronnie O'Sullivan.

He is unpredictable, has a special ability, eye of a hawk and for some reason he is voted the best snooker player even though statistics prove otherwise.

Those 3 players are all genius but Ronnie edges it.

Although im a John Higgins fan personally
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